While the current meaning and context of the term has been hotly debated and discussed due its misuse by those who consider it to be a tribal term, after much research I think it is quite evident that when one looks at the facts with an open mind, that the term simply refers to an ideology that existed in Somalia (and continues today) not much different from ideologies such as Marxism, Nazism, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism, etc. The only reason that we need to continue to understand and study this ideology is because it has been exported in the minds of an entire generation of Flight 13 Refugees who have taken this idea abroad with them and created an international network of those who pray for the downfall of the biggest victim of this ideology; the people of Somaliland.
The European Holocaust is debated up until this day by two sides who often debate the number of people who died and whether or not they reach in the millions. The Somali Genocide and Holocaust that took place, while not as internationally popular, is much different in that pretty much everyone is very aware of the loss that one side in particular endured. The only difference is that the attitude of those who suffered the least during the implementation of the Faqash Ideology states ‘So what if a genocide took place? You weren’t the only victims because ever since then we’ve been killing ourselves instead of you and you should feel sorry for us now.’ This longing for the peace and stability provided in Somalia former, even at the expense of the entire northern population, is what makes the beneficiaries of the Faqash ideology long for the ‘Old Somalia’, flaws and oppression of the north included.
While the people who suffered the most and experienced the highest loss of life due to this ill-thought out ideology hail from current day Somaliland, we must remember that this ideology was an enemy to all of Somalia former and the remnants of this ideology is what prevents current day Somalia from recovering from Somaliland’s secession. Let us not forget that the first targets of ‘Faqashism’ were the people who hail from Mudug & Nugaal regions of Somalia.
There is a popular adage from WWII that exemplifies a lot of what led to this tribal mistrust and hatred that exists until today. Like the adage ‘… and then they came for me…’, many tribes indeed benefited from their alignment with the Faqash regime as they stood to personally gain and benefit from this association that was used to oppress and single out a single northern tribe for indiscriminate abuse and classism and subtle racism. It’s no secret that tribes associated with certain ‘men of power’ in the old Somali regime were awarded favours and were treated differently and as super citizens.
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While Siad Barre was himself an insecure and insolent man, at the peak of his power he had managed to amass a team that was a force to be reckoned with which included smart strategists and propagandists. The divide and conquer technique that many accuse Somaliland of being a product of is actually the technique that has created the havoc that still runs 20 years after it was last implemented in Somalia. Whereas Somalilanders have chosen to unify under the banner of one country and one people, as was the dream of Somalia former, Somalia still suffers from the divide and conquer technique to this day with mistrust and a thirst for power superseding the brotherly love. The only difference is that Somaliland has chosen a democratic method and a respect for self determination to keep its citizens together as opposed to the strong arm tactics used by the former regime.
So back again to the word Faqash, and demystifying the strong aura that it carries. Why is there such strong emotion carried by the term? To understand the emotion involved with such a strong term one has to first explore why the term still lingers around and has taken on so many contexts which have nothing to do with the actual true meaning of the term itself.
The current misuse of the term to blanket insult people hailing from a certain region or tribe is an adulterated context of the term, but one must understand that a lot of the people who misuse this term do so due to either real life traumatic experience or hardship endured at the hands of the Faqash Regime. Many people suffer from post-traumatic stress, were displaced and or lost their property or close family members due to the tactics of the Faqash Regime. While I do not agree with their uniformly calling an entire region’s population Faqash, the pain and sense of loss that has led to this error should be easy to understand and sympathise with. While I hate them for using it in such a sinister way, I can see where they’re coming from.
I equally understand when the average citizen from current day Somalia becomes enraged or feels insulted and takes offense when they hear the term as they feel it is being directed towards them thanks to its true definition being abused by the few who are bitter towards all of their brothers from the south. I think that those who are quick to get offended are just as lame as those who abuse the term as they are looking for any reason to point a finger at the other side and create an opportunity to display the animosity they harbour deep within their souls.
My message to those who get offended quickly is that they should shrug off when someone calls them the term as an unwarranted insult. I would never get offended if someone yelled ‘Hey You White Cracker!’ even if I was the only other person in the room because I’m obviously not a RITZ product. The word Faqash stands for the expansionist ideology of Siad Barre’s former regime that used any means necessary, including outright oppression, to subjugating entire populations based on where they fell in the hierarchy of the class system that was used to maintain Siad Barre’s grip on power. So unless you support everything this regime did, then relax, it’s not you who we’re talking about when we use the word Faqash.
And my message to those who indiscriminately use the word Faqash to paint an entire region or country as such is to also take it easy. While it’s hard to not hate the people who benefited either knowingly or unknowingly from your hardship, you have to understand that this was a state-sponsored ideology and that whoever wasn’t benefiting financially for towing the government line was either too scared or ignorant and uneducated to do something about it. And to those who use it in a tribal context, please remember that some of the biggest Faqash were from the Isaac Clan itself including the imbeciles who were a part of the SRC who sold their entire country (all of Somalia former) for a few pieces of choice property and the trappings of office.
So there you have it. The true meaning of the word Faqash has nothing to do with tribes, nothing to do with Somalia bashing, and nothing to do with one group of people being better than the other. It is a simple descriptor word used to describe both the ideology and atrocity of a government that was lead by Mohamed Siad Barre. It is not meant for those who continue to suffer from the actions of that man and who acknowledge that he made a lot of mistakes that have impacted so many. To those of you who dream of Somalia the way it was before because you were a ‘house negro’ and dream of its return, you are the ones we speak of when we continue to use the word Faqash up until this day. If you still support what Siad Barre did, inwardly or outwardly, or are offended by being called Faqash, we can compromise and start calling you ‘Douches’ instead, because you support murder and ignorance on par with the Nazis.
Written By:
Maxmuud-Aar X. Xuseen (Mo Hussein)
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Views expressed in the opinion articles are solely those of the authors and do not necessarily represent those of the editorial
Anigu waxan maqlay waxa bixisay qof dumar ah oo la waydiiyey in ay aragtay askar ka tirsan taliskii Afweyne. Waxa ay tidhi:
Waa kuwii halkaa sii FAQASH FAQASH LAHAA lahaa. Iyadoo aad u matalaysa habkii ay usocdeen oo ay ka muuqatay baqdin iyo cabsi badan. Iyagoo ogaa in dadka iyo degaankuba col u yihiin oo aanay jecleyn.
that man died like 100 years ago let allah sort him out, faqash, idoor, adoon, jareer, habash at these name calling is just bad for Somali people anywhere lets become adults and stop behaving like children, if your a separatist stop calling unionist for faqash and if your unionist stop calling separatist for idoor or traitors
why delete my comment
Well explained Mo, I really enjoyed reading that. Lest we forget the fallen for they have given the ultimate to provide us freedom. The term Faqash can only harm the one who approves of the acts of Siad Bare's regime and believes in his policies to exterminate our people. once again this is a well writen atricle.
Bravo Mo
Aydarus
I am proud Fagash and Fagash is a state
I<3Fagash
Ni,gger=id.oor
This article is obsolete and abuses the idea of freedom of expression. The word faqash is an outdated tribalist word and it should not be justified what so ever. Please, grow up.
This article is obsolete and abuses the idea of freedom of expression. The word faaqash is an outdated racist word and it should not be justified what so ever. Please, grow up.
What about the words IDOR OR KALDAN?
Take it easy. As the brother said, some Isaaq qualify as well. People will be people. Some people will misuse the word and the author as acknowledged this. So if someone calls you faaqash just reply "come on maaan don't be such an IDOR" or '"Don't pull a KALDAN on me" loool
"all of their brothers from the south" those aren't my brothers, you my friend are a Faqash.
people like you are not my brothers, Somalians that I might call my brothers are in the same sense I would call a Yemeni or an Ethiopian.
Of course you would love the term to be dropped so people like you won't be identified by their true colors, you talk about freedom of speech, F***** freedom of speech Xidigta Oktobor style.
I think Faqash = Whoever worked for the Kacaan, such as Ina Cigaal, Ina Siilaanyo, Ina Samatar, Ina Dafle, Ina Lax-was iyo dhamaan dadkii kacaanku kusoo shaqeeyey. Dad fara ku tiris ah oo qabiil u isticmaalaa waa jiraan, laakiin article ka ayaa isha ka riday!
Faqash is whoever worked for the Kacaankii. Such as Ina Cigaal, Ina Dafle, Ina Samatar, Ina Riyaale iyo kuwo kaloo fara badan.
Runtu ragbay dhibaysaa, Well Done Mo,
This is a great article that really outlays the true meaning of the term. To those that get offended by the term I will only say that it must be the fact that it brings back memories of the days when you and your ilk were trying to exterminate our people. faqaaaaash way tagtaye si tukhaan tukhiyaay walee way tagysaa sii tukhaan tukhiyaay runtii way tagaysaa….
For some of us this word will never be outdated as long as the perpetrators of the genocide against our people are still around. The word only offends those that took part in the mass murdered of our people as well as those that supported it and those that today uphold the believes of Siad Bare and his regime to exterminate us.
Though our enemies are many and may even be more powerful than ever before, we stand strong, we stand united and fly that flag till the last one falls and the soil ensembles the true colours of our beloved flag, Green, White and Red; for those colours articulate the true story of Somaliland.
SNM4Life….Lest we forget the heroes of our homeland.
Runtu ragbay dhibaysaa, Well Done Mo,
This is a great article that really outlays the true meaning of the term. To those that get offended by the term I will only say that it must be the fact that it brings back memories of the days when you and your ilk were trying to exterminate our people. faaaaaqaash way tagtaye si tukhaan tukhiyaay walee way tagysaa sii tukhaan tukhiyaay runtii way tagaysaa….
For some of us this word will never be outdated as long as the perpetrators of the genocide against our people are still around. The word only offends those that took part in the mass murdered of our people as well as those that supported it and those that today uphold the believes of Siad Bare and his regime to exterminate us.
Though our enemies are many and may even be more powerful than ever before, we stand strong, we stand united and fly that flag till the last one falls and the soil ensembles the true colours of our beloved flag, Green, White and Red; for those colours articulate the true story of Somaliland.
SNM4Life….Lest we forget the heroes of our homeland.
Runtu ragbay dhibaysaa, Well Done Mo,
This is a great article that really outlays the true meaning of the term. To those that get offended by the term I will only say that it must be the fact that it brings back memories of the days when you and your ilk were trying to exterminate our people. fagaaaaash way tagtaye si tukhaan tukhiyaay walee way tagysaa sii tukhaan tukhiyaay runtii way tagaysaa….
For some of us this word will never be outdated as long as the perpetrators of the genocide against our people are still around. The word only offends those that took part in the mass murdered of our people as well as those that supported it and those that today uphold the believes of Siad Bare and his regime to exterminate us.
Though our enemies are many and may even be more powerful than ever before, we stand strong, we stand united and fly that flag till the last one falls and the soil ensembles the true colours of our beloved flag, Green, White and Red; for those colours articulate the true story of Somaliland.
SNM4Life….Lest we forget the heroes of our homeland.
Runtu ragbay dhibaysaa, Well Done Mo,
This is a great article that really outlays the true meaning of the term. To those that get offended by the term I will only say that it must be the fact that it brings back memories of the days when you and your ilk were trying to exterminate our people.
For some of us this word will never be outdated as long as the perpetrators of the genocide against our people are still around. The word only offends those that took part in the mass murdered of our people as well as those that supported it and those that today uphold the believes of Siad Bare and his regime to exterminate us.
Though our enemies are many and may even be more powerful than ever before, we stand strong, we stand united and fly that flag till the last one falls and the soil ensembles the true colours of our beloved flag, Green, White and Red; for those colours articulate the true story of Somaliland.
SNM4Life….Lest we forget the heroes of our homeland.
Faqash = SNM killers
Well done Mo for scratching the surface of the truth.
Faqash = Nazcism/facism
I hate everything that Faqash stood and still for. This whole ugly fact went down into history and those who are claiming to get offended by it are the seeds of Faqash itsel; Your fathers and fore fathers committed ugly and unIslamic crimes that will travel with them to after-life, and that will have a massive affect on you in this live. I suggest you guys start realising this fact and try to rectify the wrongs done by your ancestors instead of moaning and wining about anyone who mentions this, because it will NEVER go away.
LONG LIFE SOMALILAND AND ALLAH BLESS SOMALILANDERS
Some people even use Faqash for their user names so not everyone run away from the name. On the other hand if everyone who was part of Barre military government is labelled as faqash, then it also mean more than third of Somali population are Faqash;however, the word mean mixed to me at least. Usually, the nicknames that people runaway or get angry when some one called them is the nickname that sticks forever.
You should also admitted the term that contrast to Faqash was Kulmis or Qudhmis and it was all propoganda i think but when one uses such a words to those who were either young or were absent at the time, then the words are misleading or useless. When you called an elected man like Riyale a Faqash and you don't called Faqash those who also work with previous government these worlds are useless and it maybe used by those who maybe very upset.
How many times someone called me Faqash and i don't care because i know it has nothing to do with me personally so why do some one get offending by it. Now its 20010 and these words have no benefit for Somaliland in particulary since some people broading the Faqash to those who were neutral Barre time.
Askhriso taariikhda, xunyahayow. Aad kala baratid cidda Asalka ah iyo cidda ah n…gr iyo weliba Gabarti, Gabarti xaar gurow, yalif al khara waa yaakulo. That is what we used to say when were growing up in Aden to those people in Yemen because that was their race and xaarow was their profession. And of course, that is where you hail from, yaa xaywaan! Dad asal u dhashay ayad afka lagaadaynaysaa.
why use the Nazi symbol for the faqash. You better much ruined the article with that image.
Your description of the word 'Faqash,' but beside the sound of the boots on the mud, imagine the seen of a very heavy (very fat) bull staggering around and awakwardly.
That is how people perceived them. Well done Aar. One correction though, it is 'Ishaaq' or Isaaq as we use it now and not Isaac Clan. Isaac is a jewish name.
Your description of the word 'F+++sh,' but beside the sound of the boots on the mud, imagine the seen of a very heavy (very fat) bull staggering around and awakwardly. That is how people perceived them.
Well done Aar. One correction though, it is 'Ish++q' as we use it now and not Is+++c Clan. Is+++c is a jewish name.
Fadlan, ha dayanina kuwa wax caayaya oo iyo aad baad uga saraysaane. Rayga Faqash waxa la rumaysan yahay inuu yahay kii ugu sareeyey ee Afsoomilga ku soo kordha qarkinayadii ugu danbeeyey.
waayo!
Aydarus,
Somalis fought for clanism and no one is inocent here. Barre regime did abuse people of Isxaq background so he did against habargidiris, majeerteenis and others he thought threat to his seat. Every clan had his revenge. No need to go back to that dark history. time to move on.
Go tell that to Al shabab, their supporters and the TFG.
Alshabab has openly said that they were going to FORCE Somaliland to unite. The TFG has shown its true colours as well. They have refused to even recognize the Somaliland administration despite its legitimacy. They have also wrote numerous letters requesting the Saudis not to buy livestock from us; which is the biggest revenue generator for government..
So should we forget the dark history? I say WALAHI NEVER. As long as our brothers continue to plot we will continue to remember and teach our children.
I don not recognize Somaliland either. That is not wrong. There is only one Somalia and that is Somali Democratic Republic. TFG, Puntland and Somaliland, all three entities are illegitimate. The religious fanatics, Al-shabaab and Hizb-Islam and others in the government and Ahl-Suna-Wa-jama are fanatics that will never rule Somalia. Every thing is wrong here.
But there is one problem with people in Northern Somalia; they deeply believe there is government called Somaliland, which there is not. And I am afraid lot of people will be disappointed when real solution is found for Somalia. Somaliland idea is basis for negotiation with what ever comes out of the south.
you are either plain dumb or trying to deny reality – doublethink is common among faqa$h-, if Somaliland doesn't exist then you shouldn't have mentioned it like you didn't Jubaland or northland, Somaliland isn't recognized as a state – yet-, but it does exists in objective reality it controls land from Las qorey to Loya cade, from berbera to balleh ad, hence its called a DE FACTO state – facto is latin for hmmm ohh yes FACT-, but your beloved Somali Demo- Secularist Islamist Socialist-cratic Republic doesn't exist in Objective nor Subjective- not even TFG believe in Somalia as it was- reality .
When i was in Hargeisa back in 1984, a guy from Sanaag named Jaamac green use abuse power. His family, i heard, are welcomed in Hargeisa.
Waa lays dilaa. ama waa la kala aargutaa ama xaal baa lakala qaattaa. lakala arrguday. Nin ciilqabikaraa majiro oo ka mid ah qabiilada waaweyn.
You were in Hargeisa 1984? woow most of us wont even born yet you argue with these kids for instance the guy who write this article wasnt even born then.
No wonder you believe in Greater Somalia you use to be a foot-soldier for Siad Bare.
Well Somalia is dead so is that generation your one of the last few left good luck and stop arguing with the kids.
Fantastic article but would the flight-13 neo faqash masses listen? I highly doubt it. See we Somalilanders are good people who believe in right and wrong in halal and haram where as you rightly put it generations of faqash offsprings have grown on haram, their parents where most likely foot soldiers of the faqash revolution and no amount of reasoning can get to them. I actually met this girl who hates Somaliland so much and when I asked her why so much hate knowing she never been to Somaliland I later found out her daddy was faqash banker in Hargeisa who stole money from innocent Isaaqs and used the money to bring the whole family with money looted from helpless poeple of Somaliland. Their hate is beyond reproach and we need to start speaking the only language they know, afka xun ka garaaca and call them faqash futo xun. No use being nice to animals and stop with this Somalinimo bull we are not the same.
We need to stop being nice to the neo f.aqash, they have been raised with haram money stolen from the poor people of Somaliland.
True said, we shouldn’t be silent about it..
You see we Somalilanders are too nice and people take advantage of our good hearts, these people hate us no matter what we do for them, right now there are thousands of them in Hargeysa and Burao but still xaasidnimo is in their blood and would love to see Somaliland fail.
Walahi that is true.
Faqash iyo iidoor iyo mooryaan iyo midgaan iyo suuf-alool waa isku wada mid kuligood waa danbiile iyo gacan ku dhiigle miidhan.
Faqaash ideology:
Faqaash believes what is mine is mine and what is is yours is mine.
So let’s not jump in to conclusion and label all darood as faqaash…NO all darood ppl are not faqaash, anyone who believe and defend this ideology is faqaash.
The Nazie mythology believers didn’t vanish after the world war II , the same thing happened with the Faqaash myth believers their ideology didn’t die after they lost the (Somaliwayn) war, and while keeping the Fascists Communism's identity, they succeed to adopt new ideology based on fundamentalism where they hide their evil ambitions behind the religion…(by Ibrahim Ahmed)
Part of Barre's time in power was characterized by oppressive dictatorial rule, including the persecution, jailing and torture of political opponents and dissidents. The United Nations Development Program claimed that "The 21-year regime of Siyad Barre had one of the worst human rights records in Africa. The Africa Wat…ch Committee wrote in a report that "Both the urban population and nomads living in the countryside subjected to summary killings, arbitrary arrest, detention in squalid conditions, torture, rape, crippling constraints on freedom of movement and expression and a pattern of psychological intimidation.The was a torture methods committed by Barre's National Security Service (NSS) included executions and "beatings while tied in a contorted position, electric shocks, rape of woman prisoners, simulated executions and death threats (by Jambir Sultan )
as I said in many times that we should highlight on the fundamentalist ideas of the hatreds, which those who committed crimes against humanity bulled their judgment on it, and that hate itself without a basic description to it, is a crime to humanity. Our attention and goal is to address it and try to find a cure to those infected by this disease, and to show the others its harmful threat that it represent. We must understand that the only way to do so is to acknowledge the problem first, and to look for a better way to cure it or to amputate it. our past makes the present and future, and no matter how painful that experience was people shouldn’t forget about it , Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and in order to move forward we must accept everything about ourselves and i mean everything. History is a guide to navigation in perilous times. history is who we are and why we are the way we are.
Yes you and us didn’t have a hand over what happened back those days, but now we are hold accountable in front of those who died and might die in any second now, to bring the murders who committed such crimes to justice, and to teach ppl about their crimes and the reasons behind it no matter how horrific that will be, and it is also a message for those who think that they can kill and get away with their crimes, that ppl will always remember what they did… our message is not about hate but its abut exposing and teaching the ideology of the Faqaash so ppl can fight it back with hope and love… and i believe that such goals are noble ones…
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Well Written Article MO
I don't undersand why some people will get alergic from that word when they heard, infact I would be happy to listen someone vindicating that it doesnt exist but am afraid thats not true at all because it was in 2001 when the Leader of what was called UIC now (HIZBUL SHAYDAN) Hassan D. Aweys said quote" “People in Somaliland worship a deity called ‘Peace’ and this deity is mirrored on western ideology ‘Secular State’ and by hook and crook must be dismantled, if we are to have an Islamic government unifying the whole of Somalia”. One reads that statement will not understand anything but hate and a long hostility engraved in everybody and at every spectrum… so after 15 years when Siad Barre has died, what he left on Mogadishu does still exist – Faqashism is a modern Ideology that was a state-sponsored.
Well Written Article MO
I don't undersand why some people will get alergic from that word when they heard, infact I would be happy to listen someone vindicating that it doesnt exist but am afraid thats not true because ever since the fall of Siad Barre and his Ideology has lived for years, infact it was a common denominator and a defined Purpose that was based to dismantle and uphold its Legitimate
qeust, and when digging I found that from one of the
Founders of UIC when said quote in 2001 " “People in Somaliland worship a deity called ‘Peace’ and this deity is mirrored on western ideology ‘Secular State’ and by hook and crook must be dismantled, if we are to have an Islamic government unifying the whole of Somalia”. Those remarks have been famous on a man never wished Somaliland to be peaceful nor succeed. I guess everyone knows who am speaking abuout? if not then it was Hassan D. Aweys so lets speak about in a human way : what a conscience of a humanbeing can advocate to such ?
Well done bro Mo, although i didn't wanted to classify between Faqash and South, they all faqaash and they like War, Chaos, killing, you know what is funny i met one guy who was from Mogaqudhunto he told me that if he doesn't hear the sound of AK-47 he can't sleep, which is pretty odd, i mean after 5 more years there will be Walking Dead Vampires in there am telling you…so, they are not just Murders but they are also Idiots who can't face the real men(SOMALILAND), they are only propagandists who are desperate about what we achieved and whats coming to us.
I have recently wondered why there is so much haters growing nowadays, does Somaliland declared its independence from Somalia recently or its been like this for almost 2 decades and it turns out that they know that we are almost there and we did it, so they just can't believe it that is all, so guys get real and stop wasting our time by having such a useless argument of some kinda articles like this.
well done Mo,
Hamze Mohamud Afyare.
The term is an out of date one, which can no longer apply to an individual or people. As the regime of Mohamed Siad Barre no longer exists. This term remember transcended to include tribes which hold power today in Puntland, Somaliland and the current TFG.
Salah
Nobody has said something different than what you said but the matter is, is not the members representing Somaliland who're having this Ideology but the members of the TFG and Alshabab,Hizbul Shaydan and the mouth piece of Pugland – Garoowe online, the list goes on. so why theresn't anybody who can focus to what matters to the people been killed,raped,tortured for years, why someone people will obsess about this Ideology that doesnt aim except to dismantle Somaliland understand that this place was not the one who created that MESS in Mogadish, not the one who interfered about its issues, not the one that sends some suicde bombing and terrorist to terrify and dismay people out there, not the one who made all those leaders didn't find a real Solution on the ground, a real hope they can believe and a real future for their own children. … Lets state what's fact here that Somaliland never beenn a part of the Mahyem that last over 2 decades so why we jump up to blame those in Hargeisa of this MESS???
Salah:
Nobody has said something different than you!!
The Fact the matter is not about the figures that represent Somaliland who're believing this but the TFG Pundits. I said that because the 2 Decades of the Mayhem and chaos wasn't the fault of Somaliland, understand that this is the place that hasn't created the mess from the first place, not the place that has made Mogadishu even the wild animals even expatriated from it, not the place has sent some suicide bombers or a group of a terrorist to orchestrate some villain attacks against the People, not the place that has killed the Oasis of Peace some people enjoy since the Barre Tyranny, not the place that has made Alshabab or Hizbul Shaydan to dig back the graves of the Mullah and the Scholars in Mogadisu, so It's Bizzare to base ur argument of selective memory. That Ideology should be stopped immediately, I think from a humanity perspective we have to address the dangerousness of this Theology that similar like Nazizm,Facism or Communism.
Waxan ku gartaa inaan runsheegaayo marka commentigeyga la masaxo. I know that I am telling the truth when my comments are deleted kkkk. Thank you. but you are all faqash.
Well done MO
i really didnt like the idea of classifying between them since there is no such a diffrence between them they are what they are we have to accept it like that and i think we should have to pay such time on argueing them like this we are doing here, they are animals not just murders, they like War, violence, chaos, killings, and i think like another 5 or 4 years there will be Vampires in there. You know what surprised me is that i met a guy from Mogaqudhunto and i asked him how he feel about the situation down there and he told me that he just can't sleep the night if he can't hear the sound of AK-47 around him, so this is the typical guy from there and you guys spending your time on differentiating between this Animals, although you kinda right about it, cause there is categories for the Animal Kingdom too, so lets just say there is some kinda categories in Faqash.
Well done MO.
Hamze Mohamed
These term along with Somalia and the few that still believe in Somalia such as 'Ruunsheeg' are irrelevant to today's society and out off date and gone for good.
Case closed.
The new more hip term is NEO F.A.Q.A.S.H
Hello all . i have lil 2 say about this and that is, FAQASH still a live weather is ideoligy or persons that believe them. that said i olso believe the idea behind puntland is olso similar 2 that faqash. i said that becouse the main reason they build this region is to counter attack somalilandz ideoligy and refused what is somalilandz counquest(recognition)…is about time somaliland wake up and smell the coffe our enamy is out there and working day and night, so we need to be barave and tell them like it is.
ok, we can tell the truth i guess
i meant can not
In the mind of the majority from the somaliland state they see certain symbols as an unrepentant FAQASH presences and Dominance of Punland and somalia. The symbols are the OLD FLAG – on bar with the swashtika. The attitude of punland it's existance and stance on somaliland prosperity and like wise the venom projected from somalia constantly is no different then the Nazi salute. Hile-Hittler… any anti-somaliland comment to me is the same as the Nazi salute. So are Faqash dead or sorry?? no they are not they are still detemined on exterminating ISAAQ by exploiting the insecurity of Awdal, Sool and Sanaag by any means in their power. Yet we still let this wolfs into somaliland among our young sheep to be recruited and turned against us i.e the bombings.
This term has no place in Somali society. I cannot see the relevance of faqash. I am still trying to reconcile how the term is even close enough to ideologies like communism, fascism or nazism, ideologies which are still around today. Can we only blame Mohamed Siad Barre for the mess that is Somalia? I think that is not being rational. All Somalis have the blame for the ensuing chaos remaining in our country.
I hope people stop using such a term to label their rivals.
I feel ashamed to be Isaaq sometimes for the simple fact that we can't let go with victim mentality. Ziade Barre is dead and gone. Just move one from this childish i am the victim mentality which you had for 2 decades because to be honest it is embarrassing. It is time you let go what happened 20 years ago and stop isolating us. It only makes us look weaker. Stop holding grudges my people. Time to look ahead not backwards.
Easy for you to say. You are either an imposter or totally igorant of what happend. We are not isolating our ourselves. They are trying hard to isolate us and if that is what you believe. You are a weak and meek individual who doesn't know anything about the atrocies committed against innocent people. While we look ahead, we will never forget thousands of who died.
Grow up and get out of your delusions and acknowledge which side you are on.
Godaad, I am not gonna reason with your lack of common sense coz unfortunately our people are full of men who have 10 year old mentality and can't take criticism and others different opinions.
No1 is telling you to forget those who died but even the 30 year olds in Somalia today have nothing to do with it. People who committed these crimes are either perished or about to be perished. So why hold the young Somali population against this. What is there fault in this?
And yeah nations and people have always fought and will always fight. 60 million people died during WW2 but nations that involved in these wars now share common values and have reached development heights. The Americans civil war claimed millions of lives and today they rule the world as one great nation.
Stop hating those who are closest to you and share blood line with you and channel your energies into positive thoughts and deeds. Rather than writing articles like this which does nothing but generate hatred, spend your time writing about how to make peace and become one greater nation who flourish and exist forever.
Peace
Haboon, you can be anyone you want, no one asked where you come from or what your tribe is. It’s funny really coz I come across with a lot of your kind in the net and they will start there argument saying I’m from Somaliland or I’m Issaq, and if there is anything I am sure of it due to my past experience is that they aren’t who they say they are. And even if we surrender to the childish idea it will always seem pointless to me coz it’s not relevant to what is being discussed. Anyone can be whoever he want on the net, and in the end of the day you can say your dazed ideas about whoever you are and still people will spit on it… don’t you think i can do the same and speak on behalf of Darood or Haweeia. who you are, is not discussed here.
First your statement is really unfair to what Somaliland people offer to those illegal aliens’ immigrants who life among us in safety and stability, and it’s not enough that you only acknowledge what happened, but also to correct it. How? I’m sure that you don’t have super powers to make thousands and thousands of children’s, woman’s, and old men who their bodies lays in those mass graves discovered in time to time in Somaliland to live again, and I’m also sure that you don’t speak on behalf of those from Somalia, but for yourself only, therefore what you can do and offer is limited, but for sure significant to the eyes of those who lost their love ones. being sorry for what your fathers and grand fathers did is a good start. But neglecting the rights and freewill of the people is other thing.
Hi Ibrahim. To be frank, I am not following the point you are trying to make and I don't understand anything you just said in here other than the why say who you are bit. Well I just felt to state who I am in order to prove that people from Somaliland don't all think like the author of this article. That was the only reason i felt I had to mention my tribe. And you are right that was inappropriate but those of you who claim to speak for the entire people of Somaliland force us to do this sort of things. So don’t generalise the entire of S/land and pretend like we all hate the rest of our brothers in Somalia cuz wat happened just happened and so many of us moved on
Peace and Allah show you all the right path
I can see that you are trying a positive spin on what really happened, but doesn’t work that way. You are simply denying what happened.
Of course, you and many others would like to bury the painful past and forget about it because you were not affected by it or had members of your family killed in cold blood by those who abused their power and actually thought that they were above the law. Isn’t it really ironic though to hear from you the blood-line relatives and Somaalinimo today, “beer xalowsi” wouldn’t work, when back then they didn’t not consider the blood-line when they were committing atrocities indiscriminately against innocent people. Why should we?
Don’t try trivialize the seriousness of what happened, shift the blame from the real murderers and put a guilt-trip on us.
If you are embarrassed to be a Somalilander, perhaps you can cross over to Puntland. They will be happy to have you. As for us, it will be one down and more to go!
Positive spin is always better than negative one and for that people like me will have the upper hand my dear Gobaad.
You advocating for hatred and destruction. I am on the side of unity and peace and for that good will precail over evil.
It is said evil is the inability to let go of the past which has filled its purpose and to move on to a new state of Becoming.
Ilaahay haydin soo hadeeyo walaloyaal oo qulubtina nacaybka ha ka saaro, Amiin
Peace and unity to my people
And for your information I was affected walalhi in a way you can't never even imagine. I had a childhood traumatized by diyaarad na rushaynaysa and images of loved ones wounded. But I can't always look back and blame every Somali person for doing that to me because it was not them it was a regime that is well gone. I don't hold on to the pass and let the hate go and don't trust me you should try coz it is well liberating.
"Isn’t it really ironic though to hear from you the blood-line relatives and Somaalinimo today, “beer xalowsi” wouldn’t work, when back then they didn’t not consider the blood-line when they were committing atrocities indiscriminately against innocent people."
You are right they did not consider blood line but don't forget that government consisted of every tribe including Somalilanders so dont just point the finger at one people
Haboon, the unity has died, buried and will never be resurrected . And if ever it does resurrect we will not be a part of it, count on it. It was an ill-fated union and any union between two countries is like a marriage. It doesn’t mean that they are joined on the hips. If it does not work well people go their separate ways. And if you are trying to win back Somalilanders by trying to discredit their cause, attacking them, insulting them, and taunting them, you guys really have a weir ways of trying to win back the trust, minds, and hearts of Somalilanders who moved on and will never look back.
We know that only the minority among us like you are still trying hard to cling to unity for a fear of reprisal. We went pass and beyond that because we are not blood-thirsty or warmongers like those of you who are still killing innocent people for 30 years.
We are peaceful people. We know that and the world can see and differentiate between us the delusional so-called Somaliwyen dreamers and the peace and progress in Somaliland.
Don't try to point a finger on the government only lots of people took part for the sake of tribal affiliation. And you what? The minority among or the 'enemy within' as we called them caused the heaviest destruction in Somaliland.
"I had a childhood traumatized by diyaarad na rushaynaysa and image of love ones wounded." Oh, I am supposed to sympathize with you. FYI the airplanes and the heavy weapons were not meant for you love ones. But perhaps, they were wounded because they were running around looting the innocent people belongings.
"they were running around looting the innocent people belongings"
Wow. You have just lowered yourself even further but sadly that is who you are. You know what I have not insulted you for a second since we started having this debate but it is obvious that you are somehow very damaged and bitter man blinded by a deep hatred that has no proper justification. Fortunately majority of us are sound enough to not follow your sad trails. We liberated ourselves from such resentments, alhamdulilah. I could have suggested your try it but sadly it might be too late for you. So I leave you to your painful enmity which does nothing but eat you away. All i could say is Allah have mercy on your
troubled soul, amiin.
Peace walalo
So you are personally attacking me now because the truth has no bearings with you. Watch out your mouth, woman! You are in my face and on my space. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Do not try to insult my intelligence. I am fully aware of what happened and who did what. You are only trying to distort the facts of what happened and who did what to shift the blame elsewhere in order to minimize the role your people played in genocide and the damage and destruction they have done because it suits you if what happened is totally forgotten. It will never be forgotten.
You know what, if the SNM completed their mission and didn’t consider the so-called blood-line, we wouldn’t be having this debate here today.
FYI Gobaad is a female’s name and not male.
Hmmm so you are a woman? I am so relieved that you are one cuz the thought of a brother writing such nonsense, dim responses could have troubled me
And No no! Do not please take this as an attack coz it is not meant to be one. I am too mature for such a thing. So have a chill bill sweetheart, use your brain for once not your emotion and stop spreading the venom among your people 🙂
Peace is SWEET and unity is STRENGHT
My people enjoying peace and tranquillity and people travel from coast to coast in our country, being the evny of the rest of you, while these warmongers still killing innocent people for more than 30 years. We moved on concentrating on nation building, but the venom is always oozing from people like you, honey. You, guys don't say: well done. We congratulate your success and we hope the rest of Somalia following your steps. But no, envy is eating your hearts up.
Unity nity my bud! Dream on, honey. Peace and unity marbay idiin egkay. Talo waa mar aad garanweyday iyo mar aad gaaaaaaaaaadhiweyday So, use your brain and stop crying over spilt milk!
Well said Gobaad! Exactly, stop crying over spilt milk and move on from the past
Peace
Sure honey, well said. I agree. Ha ku daalin jeedaal, qalbi kaa janjeedhsaday indho soo ma jiitaan. Cry over a unity that will never materialize.
I am proud to be a citizen of a country that has done more than any other country in the world. They slaughter our people in cold blood, and in return we provide shelter, and amnesty to their illegal aliens immigrants. We chose PEACE over war, but that word is not in their dictionary. This is who they were brought up, and no matter what you do they will stay the same. You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.
Ibrahim you are proud of a country which has done more then any other country by sheltering those that slaughtered your people in cold blood,
……..ooh silly me, now i get it..got bit confused there, you mean those hawiye widows and children in hargeysa who have been held hostage in MOG for so long by warlords controlled by ethios and cia..oooh.WHY IDNT YOU SAY SO faqash are the less fortunate people from the south…hmm intersting what about those in bosaso camps.i feel like going to garowe camp with a big board written in capitals WE WANT THE FAQASH OUT!!!….u sad sicko..luckily you dont speak on behalf of all isaaq, ….I rest my case, majority isaaq kids replied to your and those resembling your unnecessary stupidity
To Faisal, Ibrahim, Mo aka self-defeating brothers)
I am not out of touch nor I have selective memory as Faisal reckons but I see the bigger picture and what disintegration could do to my nation and people in the years to come. I am HOPEFULL and OPTIMISTIC. It is said if life is to be sustained, hope must remain, even where confidence is wounded, trust impaired.
Faisel, you already agreed that unity of Deen, culture, values is good. But unity of states is the one you seem to have problem with. Let me ask you something, if unity has no benefits as you insisting, then why is Europe (which is so diverse from every angle) uniting politically, economically, military, technologically, etc. Why do nations that have bigger landscape and population are the most powerful in our current world (e.g. US, China, Indian, Brazil, etc). And in the next 50-100 years to come what would be the consequence of 5 fragmented Somalia and 1 powerful Tigray government? I demand convincing answers please 🙂
I might live in the west as you pointed out but I am not unmindful of what happened. I have witnessed the problems of this unity like any other child growing up in Hargeysa when the war began and I have seen loved ones being killed. However, the difference between you and I is that I can’t let hate blind me and let it lead to the destruction of my nation even further. The regime that did this is well gone so stop weeping over the past guys.
On the other hand, I like the way you fantasise the story of Somaliland and make it sound like the same division that you are advocating for doesn’t affect it and its people. Maybe you should come and live the city where I live now for a day and see how divided the two tribes (both from Burco) who dominate this particular city in the UK are. Please, please wake up and smell the roses. The story of ethnic Somalis no matter what part of the country they come from is the one and the same, ME AGAINST MY BROTHER. Today you guys are advocating getting North against South. I bet tomorrow you will advocate getting Sanaag against Saaxil, Marrodi Jeex against maakhir. Because, it seems peace and unity has no place in your dictionaries.
Now let me speak emotionally. There are some of us who have families beyond the walls of certain villages and whose bloodline extend from every corner of Somalia, who have instant cousins, uncles, aunties, etc who live not just on the hilltops of Hargeysa but far beyond the shores of Bosaso to remote corners of Moqdisho. Instead of being harmonizers of differences and investing your time getting my brother against his cousin, my father against the man I will soon proudly call my husband, I reckon you put your efforts into something more fruitful and Khayr like finding the road toward cooperation and unity.
I am out of here, but i will pray for Allah to help you clean your hearts and easen that hate which is festering inside you.
One last note. I gaurentee you that good will prevail over evil so hays dalinina
Peace and Unity for ever
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