What is to come of the next Somaliland elections? If our good friend, the Somali version of Mr. Ten Percent Man, is to rig the next election and claim presidency through corrupted tactics (similar to Hamid Karzai’s illegitimate victory dance) – what will occur to Somaliland’s stability? As the North struggles to receive acknowledgment via hopeless attempts to render Western recognition, one can conclude countless failed attempts are repetitive expectations amidst Somaliland’s society. Understandably, the current government ascertains to thoughts of attracting Western diplomacy but bowing to Ethiopia’s enmity evokes a sense of national degradation. Ethiopian military officials purchase Ogaden Somali’s residing in Hargeisa through back-door channels; the Northern government is too mentally challenged to sell their souls to the rich devils (West) and instead, we’ve been bought and enslaved by Ethiopia. Thus, what is to occur to our ‘slow’ government if the people’s voice is unheard again?
Fast-forward to the deteriorating situation in Southern Somalia, although a strong sense of hope emerges from hopeless debris -Hope emerges without assistance from the Northern government. While Northern Somalia has become a pit stop for travelling Somali’s and society welcomes Southern brethren; after a few security breaches in the North- Mr. Dahir Riyale threatened to evict all Southern Somali’s from Somaliland. For him and his puppet government, these threats were merely another attempt at being loved by Mr. West. Oh Mr. Western Powers why don’t you love us? Is it because we don’t love ourselves? Could it be because we are currently a puppet of Ms. Ethiopia? Oh Mr. West!
Comical, but seriously true! Seemingly, nonsensical is Somaliland’s current Public Policy Strategy. Hence, let’s return to the electoral situation. In May 2004, we all remember the tragedy that took place in Somaliland. However, Mr. Silaanyo responded with an urgency to avoid all violence due to the example set by our Southern counterparts. So, Mr. Dahir continued with his mission of being without a mission! Therefore, if Mr. Dahir repeats the same strategy of ‘Karzai Politics’, shall we submit to another dictator? Isn’t that what the SNM fought against? Unfortunately, an African in power would rather lose sanity than peacefully lose power. Welcome to African Politics 101.
Mr. Silanyo was recently asked at a Washington D.C gathering the same question that lingers on everyone’s mind: whether or not a probable leader change will be peaceful or not. And he responded with a calm and subtle, ‘we will avoid violence and promote peace’. If the promotion of peace comes at the price of a warring ideology and an illegitimate ruling party, does that not validate the notion that the tenants of peace shall forfeit its priority of being upheld? I’m not promoting war, but merely provoking thought and indulging in an attempt to save our nation. And thus, I’d like to co-relate an aspect of public perspective in regards to the Southern Somalia and Northern Somalia relationship.
Northerners forget that Southern Somalia is still SOMALIA! Different dialects, food preferences and clan jokes but we are all SOMALIAS. However, the deteriorating situation in the South has somehow placed a subconscious mindset amongst Northerners that we are not like THOSE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH. Similarly, African Americans were told that they couldn’t be like those SAVAGE Africans. In the story of Moses and Pharoah, Pharaoh made it his objective to separate and conquer the Israelites. Somalia is merely a country whose countrymen are too blind to view the ‘separate and conquer’ mechanism fueling separatist’s movements, governments and social ideology.
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Consequently, the disassociation between Northern and Southern Somalis has played-to-the-tune of neighboring state actors who wish nothing less than Somalia’s demise. As Ethiopian troops were entering Somalia via known Northern routes, Somaliland resumed economical ties and business relations with Ethiopia. The concept that we, in the North, can witness the struggle, conflict and ultimate torture of our Southern brethren and still have a devilish sense of non-obligatory duties satisfies ‘Iblis’ and his followers. Mr. Dahirs regime has given innocent Ogedenians, peaceful residents of Hargeisa, over to Ethiopian military troops in addition to threatening to expel Southern Somali’s for Northern security breaches. If this isn’t selling one’s soul to the devil, I don’t know what is.
Regrettably, Mr. Riyales devil has not given his country anything but conflict in returns. One mustn’t expect Somaliland to preserver whilst such a regime is in power. One mustn’t expect society to gradually change for the positive whilst we ignore our fundamental obligation to our brothers in the South. One mustn’t expect social progression through economical successes whilst we trade our own people for dividends. One mustn’t expect a change, unless we first understand in essence- what must be changed. These coming elections will not bring Somaliland anything better unless ideologies are changed, movement objectives are rethought and we realize, recognize, understand and acknowledge that we are in fact- ONE PEOPLE.
Written By: Isahak Ahmed
isahak@live.com
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Views expressed in the opinion articles are solely those of the authors and do not necessarily represent those of the editorial.
Beautiful article !!
I am deeply ashamed that 'our government' is deporting Somali's and/or handing them over to Ethiopia. Have we learned nothing from what happened to us under the regime of Siad Barre? It's time for Riyale and his lot to go!
This is a Ogaadeen writer and not Somalilander. We are not one people we never be whatever you call yourselves. This is Somaliland and change of government is our business and not yours. The Ogaadeen you are talking about were those who were executing our people in 1988 and Afweyne thought he will replace them with the indigenous people of Somaliland. All those who did what they did to Somaliland people are now in Ogaadeenia and preferred to stay and be part of Ethiopia, except those crazy one OLF who daily kill their neighbours in the fifth region of Ethiopian.
So what if our government hands over ogadenis to ethiopia.
Ogadenis took part in the genocide against isaaqs and they still havent apologised.
Revenge is sweat! Also it's not just the Somaliland government that has handed some ONLF supporters to ethiopia , puntland has done that aswell.
And also it's not the ogadeni civilians that are been handed over to ethiopia it's just the ONLF funders hiding in Somaliland.
And btw Somalis from the south or the ogadenis are very ungrateful anyway, even if we was to do all the best things for them they would still have hatred for us.
And we are not ONE PEOPLE. Forget somalis! all they do is kill eachother but never others.
Complete nonesense. One can not go in the grave with his brother just because he loves him. Southern Somalis are responsible for their missery and Riyale has done nothing but given refuge to the Ayeeyos and awoowos and the children that couldn't live in peace in xamar without a moryaan asking them for protection money or rape them.
It is sad that of all the legitimate reasons out there for Somalis to unite, you only seem bitter about the little success that the people of Somaliland have achieved. You have not praised those who chose to discuss their differences and failed to condemn those whose only way is to violently disagree with their neighbors.
I am sure I speak for the majority of Landers when I say I wish all Somalis well especially our brothers and sisters in the South but we will not go six foot under with anyone just because we love them.
Shame on Somaliland Press for giving venue to a cheap nonsense like this.Where is your commitment to the noble cause of Somaliland? ..In addition to being incomprehensible to the serious reader, this writing lacks order and sense of purpose.
It annoys me when impostors such as this guy calling himself Isahak start barking at the wrong tree. Instead of running a mouth full of hatred and cursing a whole nation with your alleged wrong doings of Mr Riyale and his administration, why don’t you present here a solid evidence of your accusations? Name the individuals that you said had been extradited to Ethiopia “through back-door channels”.
Somaliland threatened to evict all Somalis back to Somalia after the majority of them committed crimes against the people of Somaliland. They plotted to harm Somalilanders and their guests. They showed not only lack of appreciation to those who sheltered them and offered them security, but they conspired cruel acts to target the citizens of Somaliland.
It is the responsibility of the Somaliland government to response to these violations immediately and protect the people of Somaliland who elected them, liberally, to do so.
P.S.
You cannot comprehend the actions of a democratic and peaceful country. What is happening in Somalia is callous and the same immoral and murderous individuals who are subjecting such brutality to their own people can not be allowed to prompt idle dialogues here. The only person who is mentally retarded in this so called blether article is you Isahak Ahmed.
I would suggest Somalia to grow wiser and stop prowling over Somaliland’s affairs, but get their own act together.
I hope Somalilandpress would stop posting such vague and superfluous materials.
What Mr. Isahak Ahmed is not but a repetive statement of Dr. Megalommatis, please see. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/14…
the best article yet here, we are one people one religion, one language, one culture, the somaliland people have achieved peace but peace is not enough we need graetness(BECOUSE SOMALI PEOPLE ARE GREAT) and we will achive that only with unity, the ethiopians are 80 different nationalities and 80 different language but they stay togherter and they want to sepperate us becouse all they want is to rule us(djibouti,somaliland,puntland, southern somaliland), salam from djibouti
Arabs have a saying he has his hand in water isn't like that who has his hand in fire, Djibouti made the right choice of not joining Somalia, unlike Somaliland that made that mistake, Djibouti has every thing to lose if Somaliland is recogonized and if everything to win if it doesn't, a united Somalia will always help the Somali – issa-elite to stay in power and oppress the Afar politically at least.
waxaan aad ula yaabanahay somalidda afka ku soo tagi itoobiya
war malez waxaa soo tababaray siyaad barre
lakiin ciidda hooyo wuu qayaamay
waxan aad sheegaysan somali land puntland iyo mogdishu 10 sano kadib
waxay noqon meel hararge laga xukumo
sida caruurta baad u hadlaysan ee iska kaana celiya dumaryohow
80 million 80 language and one nation viva ethiopia
ogaden is already mein
who is the next?PUNTLAND OR SOMALILAND ?
Somali Patriotic Movement (SPM) of Mohamed Omar Jees, an Ogaden, and United Somali Congress (USC) of general Aidid were Allies with Somali National Movement (SNM) during the fight against Siad Barre.
Don't generalize. Not justice.
This is nothing but none sense and lies but if it makes them happy then yes Somalilandpress go ahead publish it because we all know at the end the writer is just another mad man from Sool or Puntland.
They can cry after Somaliland, what's ogaden aint they the people who were dogs for Siad Bare?
Its not worth it guys just let them bark.
It really makes me angry when people like this author talks about Ogaden men handed over to Ethiopia. Oh, so we are suppose to be sympathetic with them? You seem to have forgotten completely what happened when Ogaden were refuges in Hargeisa. We welcome them, fed them and gave them a safe place to stay. Our reward was to be stabbed at the back. Isn’t it ironic to talk about Somalinimo today and that we are the people?. Hard to believe that it is coming from the same people who were trying exterminate Somalilanders. Well, we really don’t give a damn what happens to those Ogaden men you are talking about. What we care about is that they don’t make problems in Ethiopia and then infiltrate into our territory to hide out among us.
There is no need to disguise yourself as a Somalilander or pretend to be something you are not. Believe me, we can read you like a book and between the lines. Besides, only cowards and criminals are known to disguise themselves. This also goes to those other imposters who post their idiotic comments here frequently thinking that they can not be noticed.
Stop crying over split milk. Get a life and move on.
Somalia, what Somalia? This imposter either forgot what got us where we are, or he is merely trying in vain to persuade us Somalilanders to come to the rescue of THOSE Southerners. In a nutshell, I and all of those true Somalilanders would want to see the total disassociation from THEM Southerners. I, for one, would not have let a single non-Somalinder into Somaliland, after all, every Somalilander including myself lost a loved one or more to the savagery of THEM southerners. To hell with them!!!!
Somaliland is colonial name a contradictory to the term nationalism. Simply on the basis of the colonial roots, many former colonies have discarded their colonial appellations and adopted titles that are of more indigenous or un–colonial derivation. You may discuss the details and timetable, but you do not question its validity or wisdom at all. In fact, when one adds up all to create a clan-based statehood in 21st Century for a group of people who are not even a cohesive society other than their hatred to all People of Somalia, then the whole enterprise does not make any sense whatsoever. Hargaysa leaders should be considered as high traitors, enemy of thier own fatherland, and be taken to a Court of Justice by any Somali patrioIt. In fact Ethiopia wants weak and fragmented Somalistats that it can easily manipulate its political and security direction at will, because there are no leaders with vision, courage and integrity left in Somalia. The northern separatist group outdo one another in their eagerness to endear themselves with anti-Somalia hate propaganda, they high jacked the will of the good somalian northern people, they breath one and only one thing, which is tribalism. Recognition to the northern enclave will serve no purpose whatsoever
Somaliland is colonial name a contradictory to the term nationalism. Simply on the basis of the colonial roots, many former colonies have discarded their colonial appellations and adopted titles that are of more indigenous or un–colonial derivation. You may discuss the details and timetable, but you do not question its validity or wisdom at all. In fact, when one adds up all to create a clan-based statehood in 21st Century for a group of people who are not even a cohesive society other than their hatred to all People of Somalia, then the whole enterprise does not make any sense whatsoever. Hargaysa leaders should be considered as high traitors, enemy of thier own fatherland, and be taken to a Court of Justice by any Somali patrioIt. In fact Ethiopia wants weak and fragmented Somalistats that it can easily manipulate its political and security direction at will, because there are no leaders with vision, courage and integrity left in Somalia. The northern separatist group outdo one another in their eagerness to endear themselves with anti-Somalia hate propaganda, they high jacked the will of the good somalian northern people, they breath one and only one thing, which is tribalism. Recognition to the northern enclave will serve no purpose whatsoever
Somaliland is colonial name a contradictory to the term nationalism. Simply on the basis of the colonial roots, many former colonies have discarded their colonial appellations and adopted titles that are of more indigenous or un–colonial derivation. You may discuss the details and timetable, but you do not question its validity or wisdom at all. In fact, when one adds up all to create a clan-based statehood in 21st Century for a group of people who are not even a cohesive society other than their hatred to all People of Somalia, then the whole enterprise does not make any sense whatsoever. Hargaysa leaders should be considered as high traitors, enemy of thier own fatherland, and be taken to a Court of Justice by any Somali patrioIt. In fact Ethiopia wants weak and fragmented Somalistats that it can easily manipulate its political and security direction at will, because there are no leaders with vision, courage and integrity left in Somalia. The northern separatist group outdo one another in their eagerness to endear themselves with anti-Somalia hate propaganda, they high jacked the will of the good somalian northern people, they breath one and only one thing, which is tribalism. Recognition to the northern enclave will serve no purpose whatsoever
you are living i heel right now that place call somaliland lol
you are living i heel right now that place call somaliland lol
“HADDUU CIRKU SOO DUMO, MEESHA AAD KA GASHAAN AYAAN KA GALEYNAA”
The favourite word of people from Waqooyi galbeed, in the last 18 years, seems to be we will secede from you!!! And i should say who cares if you do? If you still wining about what happen twenty years ago and blaming on the SOUTHERNERS, SO BE IT. Live in your past. People moved on and forgot Siad barre regime because, after all, we all involved in the mindless sectarianism called CLANNISM.
If you guys want leave Somalis alone, get your businesses from rest of Somalia, don’t trade with us, don’t deal with us, just leave us alone. And also, leave the Somali tribes who do not want to be part of your entity alone.
No one will bother you and you will live happily ever after, if that is how you see your future.
LEAVE US ALONE THE SO CALLED SOMALINADERS PLEASE. WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR WINING.
Reer Koonfur:
In Somaliland we don't use the word WE SECEDE FROM U ONLY but also that Somaliland wasn't BORN TO FAIL, somethig Siad Barre didn't conceive, something his MOD shield didn't figure out and something the new Somaliland Anti Campaign figures will not understand. for the past 20 You imposed ur name on us and that we look like u, but it was clear that we're totally different just see the failed 14 conferneces, just see how Mogadishu turns up into one a radical islamist groups and other by the greedy TFG mindset, just see how people can't thinkg about except SOMALILAND like it's the cause of the problems happening in the South and thats why you giving a credit to this Writer who posted this offensive remarks about Somaliland, thats why you can't gather everywhere in Mogadishu to come around a common purpose…. so stop barking we were not part of you neither we will be.
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At the end I can't find something better describes than what my brother GOOBAD has said quote " There is no need to disguise yourself as a Somalilander or pretend to be something you are not. Believe me, we can read you like a book and between the lines. Besides, only cowards and criminals are known to disguise themselves. This also goes to those other imposters who post their idiotic comments here frequently thinking that they can not be noticed"
Buddy, there is no room for nostalgia and reminiscing about good old days.
it is good you noticed, after all, i am what i think.
See you said that to leave u alone and to not ever have anything to do with you, but you only have to ask urself who was running after the other? was it Somaliland that yes was destroyed, their people dismayed about that tyranny and could not have anything at all except that HOPE or was it the South when Siad Barre has left it everything was OK. Now you young guy must be contradicting urself about saying that we're chasing after you infact we don't need you walahi not now not yesterday but for a long time cuz you are not bringing anything to us except harm and disgrace.
Peace for ur Somalia… Next time try to think about what you gonna say to me or anyone in this FORUM.
Faisal A. Warsama,
Let us reflect a pit. Somaliland idea is a myth, Isxaq is the truth. What makes you think the clannish political tactic, not by SNM, but sixties politicians from Waqooyi galbeed, like Igal, will work undetected? Somalis from every clan background know Somaliland means Isaxaq. If you think otherwise, you are wrong.
When you say we never been with you, do you mean isxaq clan never been Somali?
Politicization of a clan by hiding behind a political names such as Somaliland, Puntland, Banadirland or Bayland is a dead idea. Puntland is known for harti and Somaliland is known for Sixaq clan. Banadir is known for Hawiiye and Bayland Rahanweeyn.
What makes more sense brother is if you say we isxaqs don’t want be part of Somali clans. Clear and precise, and that should be honoured. But don’t believe what do not exist because it might disappoint you at the end. It just waits the south to settle and things will change for real.
Yes I am Isaq and yes, that does make me better than you. Walahi, I take pride in the name Idoor; We were hustling you monkeys for centuries.
Somalilanders – realize that every other group is tribalist; it is about time we started being tribalist too especially to protect ourselves from the dogs of Pugland.
And unlike Somaliland or Puntland, Mogadishu and the South, are making a real progress from clannish politics to a national politics based on ideological association as oppose to tribe. South also involved/involves a war with Ethiopia, unlike these two entities, to defend Somalis and their dignity. The time of religious ideolgy is nearing end, tribalism is already dead and nationalism will take over soon. Then, you will see a Somalia that benefitted from its conflict.
At reer koofur,
"to defend Somalis and their dignity". This guy is a joke, but no, he sums up the whole Mooryaan belief of today.
No one is asking you to defend no one else but your aimless souls. You are eating your own flesh and you come here with the most stupid idea of we are defending you. You are such a lame, but no surprise there cause this is how Mooryaan mentality works. It will never change, and therefore, everyday tens of Mooryaan will eat the flesh of their own in Banadir.
Call us Isahaq land, call us reer waqooyi land, call us Somaliland, but you can NEVER call us brother eating the flesh of his brother land, because that is who you are, and we don't want to be associated with that.
May Allah have his mercy on you savage people.
Reer Koonfur:
Yes Indeed it will change for Real but for the South and the so called Puntland which was established only to block the Somaliland Quest for Independce. so rest assured neither Puntlad nor your State will stand against our Face.
Didn't I say you're a misinformed person now instead of bringing Egal who was the prime minister after that Unity talk about the difference of Somalilad/Somalia, did they share anything before the UNITY? the answer is No and about the Clan Card you're playing well am sorry but I've to dissapoint u is that Somaliland is not consisted of ONE clan nor the decision of seceding from Somalia mainly took from ISAQ Clan because we will not reach that enormous ahcievment if what your'e saying is true so stop telling that story again and again, infact There are issues you have to talk about, and I can write a book about those Issues – Issues that need someone to discuss it and analyse it why its happening in the SOUTH. I bet you're eager to hear those Issues.
To Reer Koonfur:
Let us first start with Alshabab that seems not having any other business except humilating the girls in the Streets, except lashing that young guy not because he makes ADULTERY but because hes got a small BEARD what about Sheriff and his Regime that are travelling around the world to seek for a monetary/military assistance but can't have a different start like gathering the traditional elders to stop this fight peacefully and internally. No body can help you if u don't realise that you have the gut to help urself. so stop blaming us and labeling us by the Clan Card, stop blaming me just because I hail from Isaq Clan that not the only tribe that has brought the Victory and that Great Success in the Region.
Plus
You said that Somalilanders are still hovering over the destructions caused by Siyad Bare, and that we should forget about it.
For your information, like all other human beings, we don't forget, but we forgive. We forgave Siyad Bare, but what happened can never be forgetting. It is what made us who we are today; stronger, wiser, more determined, patient, peace loving, and all in all better.
But I gues you can't understand that, because you live for today and never think ahead. For the sake of your own children start thinking like Somalilanders and mind your own business; start by caring for each other, not killing each other.
Mine yo business you mean, i assume, leave us to seperate? go for it. For conflict in Mogadishu and the South, it is international and political solution will come for Somalia in sha Allah.
That is the problem with you, you wait for someone else to come and fix your problems for you. Well, I don't see hope in that either since you acted a punch of unleashed wild dogs in 1993 wneh the world tried to interfere. You guys are hopeless.
However, I believe Somaliland is your only hope of getting stability and establishing a democratic governement in somalia. How, ACCEPT that Somaliland is free and independent, and then we will send you a strong delegate to guid you to prosperity just like us. Say Amin to that, reer koofur.
I meant we find a solution to the international problem. Unlike Somaliland, we are independent. We are not owned by Ethiopia, no offence.
Yes Ms Somalind. I think Somaliland can help. Send them delegates, that will work.
I don't know who you mean Ethiopia owns. Last time I know they occupied Mogadishu and killed many of you there. so, it's good tou are free of them now. Though, there are other foreigners who are still running Mogadishu.
Anyhow, we could have send you some Somalilanders to help you correct your errors, but no one trust you guys, and trust is a big deal. Plus, we would never risk the lives of our citizens. Sorry, but you are on your own. And it pains me to say that.
There is something about the so-called Somalilanders and that is they are self-hating Somalis. Listen you all secessionists, the unity and the territorial integrity of Somalia is sacred and North West Somalia is part of Somalia. Any propoganda you will put out there will do nothing for you. Inshallah, very soon "WIILASHA" will be knocking your doors after they crush the Qabuuri Galeen and PirateLand. Inshallah, it will be real.
To hymo… WE'RE NOT SOMALIS!!
To be somali you have to kill your neighbours and rape your own women inside mosques! AUDHOBILLAH!!
Destroy your country and then immigrate to other peoples countries as refugees and then get abused! That's somalis, pathetic self hating tribal handicaps that never learn from their mistakes!
To Faisal A. Warsama,
You said before the union we did not share anything. I disagree. We shared then language, land, ethnicity, GEELJIRE culture, Islam and Economy and we still do. I also think we were united before the British but did not have a central administration because the idea of national system and government was not there at the time but clan rule was. What we don’t share is tribe and so is Isxaaq and every clan in Somalia.
I am not holding you back but I want you to be true to yourself to avoid disappointment when dust settles in the South. You are not recognised partly because many clans in the territory of former Somali British protectorate are lobbying extensively against you. How can you ignore that, let alone Somalis from your clan who do not see secessionism as solution to clan problems?
You are recognised by analysts, let alone Somalis, as a clan enclave, how can you talk about a journey when didn't move a meter for 19 years!
I respect your decisions. Let it be real. Somali unity and teritorial entegrity are unchanging. Clans cannot decide to take their land,
Abdull,
Who are you? Ethiopian?
Faisal A. Warsama
In aanaan kala dhamaaneyn waxaa daliil u ah saaxib: MOD – The D is part of Somalilandt? The ones who are raping the Girls are led by your causin, INA GODANE, AKA, ABU-SUBEYR, thanks to Ceyrow.
Waar bahashu kala dhamaanweydaye sida maysku qabnaa mise waannu qasannaa, faisaloow.
It's better everyone be Somali his own way and being Somali has nothing to do Somaliland and Somalia. These are political idea right or wrong and if some groups of Somalis made their decision it should be respected. Somaliland want to be a country so it deserved to be respected eventhough I don't buy this idea.
Not because I want Somalia or Somaliweyn but it just seem to be it need to do more where is stand right now. Government of Somaliland know that there are many people who live or from Somaliland and they are not convinced or at least summitted Somaliland idealy but as long as they don't cause problems in Somaliland, government insisted that they should be free to live and express their opinion.
The hope is that these people can chance their stand depending the progress and an isues at hand in Somaliland. Mr. Ali Galaydh says that very clearly that Somaliland should be left along but at the same time he isn't Somaliland supporter.
Why is it that we are always called tribalists in Somaliland when Puntland has tribe as the most important unifying factor (not Somali ethnicity or religion) as defined per their constitution? Why do we get called Isaaqland when we have a non-Isaaq president, whereas no one ever says anything about Puntland, who has been run by one sub-sub-sub clan since its establishment? Honestly, I get so sick of those enemies of Somaliland – sometimes I wish we really did become a tribalist country based on qabil.
To Reer Koonfur
Stop contradicting urself like theresn't anything at all you are ready and qualifed to talk about except underming our god given right for freedom and independence, except telling a fabricated story about Somaliland because there's something you can change and it's the Journey that was hard, improbable and long but through our Creed that gatheres all in every walks of life, through the Hope everyone has got in Somaliland that We're not born to FAIL and that we will prosper no matter how, that we will face the cynics with Hope and determination because through all that reasons Mr. Koonfur we invented the best Strong Instition that ever existed in Africa, through that Aspiration we wrote a new chapter in the bloody book of Africa Continet and through that unyielding hope we reminded everyone that Somaliland will write down its destiny, shapes its future and to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.
Long Life to Somaliland
To Hymo – thats right We'r not SOMALIS
I said that because we're not chasing the girls in the street to ask them shaking their Breast to see if they're wearing A BRA, we're not Somalis because don't reward the young boys/girls who finish the Koran with GUN.
You better dicuss about those problems facing ur own people weather from Alshabab or the TFG, I mean when you will act as a real people who needs a future for their bleoved ones.
I still question who can bring those common and shared things. to sacrifice and be part of building somalia, to invest in ur country and to retire with degnity. Stop talkin about Somaliland that has gained enormous achievments not by their party, not by some individual and not by government ambition but by a common Creed that gathers the people of Somaliland at every walk of Life.
Sxb Baabuurta Iska Ilaali.
Long Life to Somaliland
Reer Koonfur:
I told u don't talk about Somaliland, heres againg you're converying your message of UNITY by saying we shared some values and culture, well apart from the Language and binding factor whichs the Religion we didn't share anything and theres something you really have to understand when talking about that Unity is that in 1960 everybody thought that he will meet his brother that he shares something with him, that we echoed about this Unity in every political square and gathering and guess what we met a people who undermine our rights for learning, who made us the second pop, who brought that Youn Lenin (Afweyne) to exterminate us and guess also he wasn't alone but was backed by his favourite Shield (MOD) Marehan that he hails from, Ogaden Barres mother Clan and Dhulbahante – The Clan of Barre Son-Inlaw, so for god's sake man we're better of you not only in the figures but also the truth & sobering facts that nobody can deny it. so grow up from the Issues of Somaliland and talk about the Young Girls who're systematically being raped not by Alien but by their Cousin.
Long LIfe to Somaliland
Faisalow, please don't dignifying anything this moron has to say. Talking to him is a waste of time and energy. He doesn't have any information about our country or his own country for that matter. He is mindless, clueless and just mixing apples and oranges.
Goobad: You're right he doesnt worth responding walahi. I mean how you will convince someone living in that blindness ever in his life, who didn't see the people scattered in the streets like the ROSES, he didn't see what people are through everyday they wake up in MOGADISHU.
Now Reer Koonfur I know the figures you're talking about and I knew you will bring that because thats your tactics if you're a clueless MOORYAAN but rest assured that just because some figures are against Somaliland doesnt mean it's relevant to our Case. So pls forget about me or all the Somalialnd people in this panel, just let it be u and ur people, try to help them, try to save even ONE LIFE, try to invest in ur country, try to solve this mess that your president is seeking a foreign Assistance while its an internal ISSUE. Theres nothing young man you can convince me and I told u that why we're different is not because we came from another PLANET but because we're some people who solve everything with wisdom and intelligency, some people who never need an outsider to solve thier own issues, some people who never BEG anyone to build that Destroyed Nation of Barre Tyrrany now while the World understand that the difference you can't jump in this Panel to come up with the most stupid Idea of UNITY, because theres a Somali Sayings : Doqon Dib bay wax ka garataa.
Peace
Well, the bottom part summerizes the reality with two hands handshaking and this note: “For now, let’s sort out our differences & get rid of the Ethiopians.”
As you write, you alway write that you are not Somali because of what has happen past. At the same time you accuse what you call Somalis of not getting alone. Well, don’t you think you are the same or may be worst since you disassociate from them, let alone deal with your Somali cousins?
I think other Somalis are more tolerant than your Somalis, Somalilanders. The fact is, Somalia will remain 18 provinces and Somali Democratic Republic. Nothing will change. Clannists and religious fanatics will be deafeated by Somali patriotism. Trust me on this one.
Meanwhile, as much as you disassociate from being Somali, I am proud to maintain being your brother, regardless your leave me alone insults.
Somalia blows, but then again, so does Somaliland
What "Noble" Cause of Somaliland, if your greatfathers were to see the the comments and the way the level of thinking has slumped they would be ashamed of many of you. How can you even call yourselfs Isaaq when you have redirected the anamosity that your greatfathers had for the Ethiopians and redirected it to people who share the same religon, launguage and similer culture to you. If being a Somalilander means loving your cultural enamy more then your fellow muslims, and using a colonal name given by imperialists that occupied your lands then i refuse to call myself a "Somalilander".
You should ask yourself first, who is enemy with Ethiopia? And "what cultural enemy" are you talking about?
Many citizens of Somaliland had long coexisted peacefully with Ethiopians within Ethiopian bounders. And they still do so. Ethiopia is a neighbouring country. They are peace loving people and never wanted problems with the Somali speaking communities. We have mutual understanding and friendly coexistance.
However, what formerly known Italian Somaliland, now Somalia, seems to have zero tolerance, respect, and understanding with its neighbour countries. This only resulted soaring diplomatic relations and Somalia to be isolated.
The people of Somalia seem to be fighting battles that are not even theirs. Because Siyad Bare was an arrogant and uneducated man (even in Islamic studies) who saw evil in everyone and everything that happen to disagree with his extreme ideologies such as that of Somaliweyn, does not mean the world hates you.
Mr Ismail, stop living in the past and start living today. Leave all these unnecessary grudges behind and see the good in people and things.
Do not fight other people's battles, particularly when you don't understand what started the war.
BTW Was Riyale Not part of the SSN, that murdered Isaaqs?
With or without Unity, we will be always Somali. Like it or not that won't go away. But being Somali doen't mean to put your own house on fire and if people in Somalia respect the reputation, it mean they are respecting all Somalis image. As long as they straggle, the honest Somalis will also feel the heat.
No Somali group better than others but we like anyone or group who help Somalis images and Somaliland is part of that group who maintain security;however, Somaliland also faces its own problems. Somaliland does built its land with the help of its politicians that is why it is different today. But no nation can do alone and Somaliland was help not one time but two or more. Forexample, it is financialy help and during the election date dispute it was help.
Somaliland will never disassoiate from other Somalis and if that was its motivation it wouldn't carry the name SOMALI AND LAND. It would have changed the name long before. Build your Somalia then worry about Unity and greater Somalia.
السلام عليكم As a Somalilander I am not susceptible to emotional pleas that centre around ‘Somalinimo’ or unsubstantiated accusations against Somaliland. We've heard it all before and it's everything but ingenious. And although I don’t agree with most things stated by the writer or those that agree with him, I still find the idea of handing over Somali’s to Ethiopians wrong and I don’t see any justification for this.
The title is inaccurate and misleading as Somaliland exists and is peaceful whereas Somalia is nothing but a name that is used by warmongers to make more money be it under the pretext of Islamism or forming a government. You may fool others but we all now the truth.
Micery loves company!
Somaliland is the one place in the horn of africa that you can expect to walk free with dignity. Puntland, southerners and ogadanians are all commiting criminal and anti-social behaviour in return for the warm welcome granted to them in somaliland.
These migrants come for their own gain not for the interest of somaliland. They do not respect the law of the land. They smuggle drugs, import prostitution and cause general decay in the social fabric. Often they bring with them diseases such as HIV. To add insult to injury they bring with them a non ending negativity that somaliland can surely do without.
I say let them shoot themselves in the foot. The authorities will soon clamp down, deport them all back to their little hell holes where they were victims to rape in kenyan and ethiopian camps.
Micery loves company!
Somaliland is the one place in the horn of africa that you can expect to walk free with dignity. Puntland, southerners and ogadanians are all commiting criminal and anti-social behaviour in return for the warm welcome granted to them in somaliland.
These migrants come for their own gain not for the interest of somaliland. They do not respect the law of the land. They smuggle drugs, import prostitution and cause general decay in the social fabric. Often they bring with them diseases such as HIV. To add insult to injury they bring with them a non ending negativity that somaliland can surely do without.
Micery loves company!
Somaliland is the one place in the horn of africa that you can expect to walk free with dignity. Puntland, southerners and ogadanians are all commiting criminal and anti-social behaviour in return for the warm welcome granted to them in somaliland.
These migrants come for their own gain not for the interest of somaliland. They do not respect the law of the land. They smuggle drugs, import prostitution and cause general decay in the social fabric. Often they bring with them diseases such as H1V. To add insult to injury they bring with them a non ending negativity that somaliland can surely do without.
Somaliweyn equates somaliland existing in a relationship with parasites and pirates.
If i had anything to do with policy i would ensure anyone seeking entery from puntland, somalia or ogadania were subjected to HIV test prior to permiting entery.
They migrate to a country and take with them Corruption, Moral decay, prostitution and sodomy.
Look at their presence in Kenya, Ethiopia, Yemen, Eriteria, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Italy and countless other countries… While their men destroy each other their wifes have become global property,
Micery loves company
micery loves company
P.S
The constant negativity against Somaliland is their civilised method of crying for HELP. When you hear somaliland does not exist = we wish we were like you.
When you hear Somaliland will never be recognised = We dread the day that happens for we will forever become trapped in our own cycle of death.
When you hear Somaliland has a puppet government = We wish we were civilised enough to debate instead of slaughtering each other.
🙂 muahahaha i laugh at them
Lastly
May Allah Give the Southerners exactly that they have wished on Somaliland since 1991… Let us all say Amiin… Ofcourse they have been cheering for Somaliand to succeed right???
Say Amiin
reer koofur:
You're one bitter Somali or is it 'Ogaden' Somali, well, firstly as an issacq born and bred in Kenya, i find those so called MORYAANS dispeakable and cowards. What Somaliland has achieved in the past 20 years will bare fruit one day INSHAALAH. I have many friends from the clans of Ogaden, Majarteen, Dublahante and Hawiiya here in Kenya and we treat each other like brothers.
But one thing they always respect is how Somaliland consisting of diffrent Clans have found a way of living in peace despite temptation of following the SHAITAN footsteps we see happening every day in Mogadishu. The sooner you get rid of ABU Zubeyr and his crew and challenge that imposed TFG puppet Sheikh Seriff 'the beggar' to task, the sooner you will find peace in your sourthern enclave.
Somaliland has strived through thick and thin to achieve lasting peace and a semblance of law and order which should be applauded and deserves wholesum recognition that is due. Lamenting on Clanish excuses of Somaliland will not un-chain your dispirited side of the fence to come to terms with its own peace or tranquility needed. Stop harnesing what's good happening and ignoring the fact of the matter that Southern Somalia are inhabited by less educated class or people who can raise from their self perpertuated oblivion which cannot withstand its peril or save its own face.
Goodbye my 'Bro' and as Swahili say; "Mjinga akierevuka, waerevu wako mashakani" (It means, when a fool gets smarter, the clever is in peril); KWAHERI FROM KENYA.
Bashe,
This is not SUJU forum. This is Somali-land forum.